12 years of having my place, it helps on public safety situations because not all your security is taxed and suddenly people are in the street and you're trying to round them up and get them on their way, even if they had extended hours for half an hour for now and they can always -- i don't know what the deal is, but at least if we're going to do extended hours, from my point for public safety, i think it's a plus, with we shut off their music or whatever, we can discuss that, but, you know, i'm kind of for extended hours to a point. >> commissioner tan? >> it doesn't seem like -- i think in their plan, it's to have programming go on potentially until 5:00, it's not necessarily to say we have to start the music at 2:30 so it could be slightly staggered, so i'm inclined to support both the place of entertainment and the extended hours, i think the request here is 5:00 and i don't see a compelling reason not to support that. >> is that a motion. >> so, i move with that -- >> is there anymore comment before -- >> can we discuss after we move? >> yeah, great. >> so i'm moving to approve bot